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Dub
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Post subject: Application : Dub - SV Hunter [ACCEPTED ON TRIAL] Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:11 am |
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Greetings, let me introduce myself and offer my services to Your guild * Character Name : Dub * Class : Hunter * Talent Specialization : Survival * Link to your armory profile : http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... rtel&n=Dub * Previous Guilds : Anathemas, Left for Dead * Raiding Experience : Naxx 10/25, Ulduar 10/25, Onyxia 10/25, TotC 10/25 and small step into 10 HC mode * Availability: daily from 18.00 to 24.00 server time * Professions : working hard now on my professions which could be seen on Armory * Age : 27 * Nationality : Czech Republic (English is not problem for me, used to use Ventrilo as raid voice chat) * Why you want to join us : looking for progress, for functional and proffesional guild with clear rules and transparent policy, for well geared and experienced team-mates, want to put hand to guild progress, am used to work and play hard My latest performance from TotC25 can be seen here: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/z66f ... amageDone/Thanks for considering my application. Best regard Dub
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Delarath
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:02 am |
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Gear itself is fine, gemming for your meta is questionable though. Gemming for AP, even with purple and oranges, is not as good as the agi equivalents. Try replacing the Wicked Ametrine in your gloves with a Deadly Ametrine (10 agi 10 crit), and socket a Nightmare Tear in place of the Balanced Dreadstone in your weapon. Just a few questions about your spec....I'll assume you raid most commonly with 0/16/55? Firstly, you're missing a point in go for the throat - that is severely hindering your pet's DPS - it's pretty much mandatory that you take 1/2 in this or your pet will be starved of focus and can't use it's abilities. In your world of logs, your pet was putting out 470 - pets should be in the region of 650-800 DPS on 25 mans, take the point, watch the DPS rocket  You've taken 2/2 in rapid killing, and skipped aimed shot, what were your reasons for doing this? Aimes shot is a fairly heavy damage over increase over steady shot, and is a handy instant for movement fights. You don't really need all 3 points in Expose weakness either, 25 man buffed you'll be pushing 65% crit chance, so you're almost guaranteed to proc it within the 7 second buff window with only 2/3 in that. I'm not brilliantly hot on pets, and use a wolf myself, so if the hunters among us wanna chip in as to pet specs, that'd be cool. However - I'm pretty sure you don't need Great stamina or Natural armor - those 5 points stop you getting avoidance, bloodthirsty and rabid. Without avoidance, you risk your pet getting killed by a variety of skills they'd otherwise survive. a few examples: Gormok's stomp Twins Vortex Mimiron's Pulsing heat wave in P2 Legion flame in Jaraxxus Etc With avoidance, you won't need the 2/2 in natural armor anyway, and if your pet gets directly attacked, it's screwed, talented for armor or not  Bloodthirsty: Self healing pets = win Rabid - Nice DPS increase there That's my 2 Cents, good luck on the app!  Del
_________________ "Did 25 HC
There are a few things I'd like to mention
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Oh wait. I believe a staggered release of my PTR-experience will allow designers to experience ICC Feedback at a sustainable, measured, and ultimately more enjoyable pace"
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Illuria
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:03 am |
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I think Del's covered most of it. An odd gem in your gloves, and lack of a nightmare tear in your weapon, but that's not a huge disadvantage. Now, the pet spec makes me think that you don't know what your pet should be doing. As Del said rightly, your pet should NOT be getting hit. Therefore any talents that increase, say, it's stamina or its armor are talents you should be ignoring. As far as YOUR talents go, there are some odd choices. Speccing as a replenishment-provider and then only getting 1/3 in Hunting Party is a bit silly imo, why? Expose Weakness should only be at 2/3, the third point isn't necessary. You are missing the necessary point in GftT and why you didn't take Aimed Shot is a mystery, it's better on single targets than MS. Rapid Killing is an odd choice if you're not going down the Marks tree any further. You're not going to use Rapid Fire more than once during a fight most of the time, so why you'd want to reduce its cooldown instead of taking far more useful talents is beyond me. Overall, I think you have the idea pretty well down, there is just some fine tweaking to be done still. Your gear, by the way, is very nice. I'm jealous. You should, however, be putting out more dps in a 25 with that kind of gear. That can be worked on...
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Garkuna
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:27 am |
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Ah fook it, If Dub the Czech guy can't take an irish joke  Paddy and Murphy went out one day and each bought a pig. When they got home, Paddy turned to Murphy and said, "Murphy, how we gonna tell who owns which pig?" Murphy says, "Well Paddy, I'll cut one a ta' ears off my pig, and ten we can tell 'em apart." "Ah, tat'd be grand," says Paddy. This worked fine for a couple of weeks until Paddy stormed into the house. "Murphy," he said, "Your pig has chewed the ear off my pig. Now we got two pigs with one ear each. How we gonna tell who owns which pig?" "Well Paddy," said Murphy, "I'll cut ta other ear off my pig. Ten we'll av two pigs and only one of them will av one ear." "Ah, tat'd be grand," says Paddy. Again this worked OK until a couple of weeks later, when Paddy again stormed into the house. "Murphy," he said, "Your pig has chewed the other ear off my pig. Now we got two pigs with no ears! How we gonna tell who owns which pig?" "Ah, tis is serious," said Murphy, "I'll tell ya what I'll do. I'll cut ta tail off my pig, ten we'll av two pigs with no ears and only one with a tail." "Ah, tat'd be grand," says Paddy. Another couple of weeks went by and you guessed it, Paddy stormed into the house once more. "Murphy!" shouted Paddy, "Your pig has chewed the tail off my pig and now we got two pigs with no ears and no tails! How are we ever gonna tell 'em apart?" "Ah, fook it!" says Murphy, "How about you have the black one, and I'll have the white one?"
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Delarath
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:33 am |
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LOL!
_________________ "Did 25 HC
There are a few things I'd like to mention
First:
Oh wait. I believe a staggered release of my PTR-experience will allow designers to experience ICC Feedback at a sustainable, measured, and ultimately more enjoyable pace"
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Dub
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:47 am |
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Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:48 pm Posts: 9
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Huh, thank You for my analysis! Appreciate it. I was wondering if You guys will so deeply ask about my talent config  So that current build is my little experiment - included Rapid killing, after few weeks of testing I must say You - heavy experienced - are right. Am planning to switch to classic recommended build, including points in Go for throat, Aimed Shot and Expose weakness! - as Delarath asked and mentioned. FYI, i gather info preferably at Elitist Jerks and here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 6455&sid=1Pet - also agree with Delarath, my cat - i liked him! But yea hes getting old and have to be replaced  (LF Wolf). Also revision of pet talents should be done - especially in avoidance! Yeah my cat was dying so often, coz I wanted him to make damage. Gems - Illuria mentioned - weapon gem - is to meet requirements to have that meta gem on my helmet and also having bonus from weapon gem socket. My hands gem - is compromise to increase AP for 24 asi getting bonus from sockets and also increasing crit. Overall - You are right again  My gear is not bad, but more DPS and damage can be squeezed from it, and thats really what I want to do...that was that progress I mentioned in my application. Thanks for understanding. Dub P.S. Garkunas joke is really brilliant 
Last edited by dub on Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:08 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Penda
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:59 am |
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Pet death problems tend to be due to lack of avoidance or due to avoidance not being enough. In the latter case, there's not much to do about it. Pet speccing for survivability is kinda... useless, apart from Avoidance. Unless it's a tank or PvP pet. As it is now, you could as well run without a pet.
Also, boot enchant should be agi rather than AP too.
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Dub
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:05 am |
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Penda wrote: Pet death problems tend to be due to lack of avoidance or due to avoidance not being enough. In the latter case, there's not much to do about it. Pet speccing for survivability is kinda... useless, apart from Avoidance. Unless it's a tank or PvP pet. As it is now, you could as well run without a pet.
Also, boot enchant should be agi rather than AP too. Total agreement on boots, as i checked You Penda many times before on Armory my current fail is relatively low crit (u have 10procents more!), that can be solved by putting more agil enchants and gems as You said.
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Penda
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:27 am |
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MM is a bit more reliant on crit for damage, though, considering the additional +crit damage and Piercing Shots. Also, MM and SV benefits differently from the damage stats.
Going over your logs I notice that you do not seem to use Multi-Shot as much as you should, considering the lack of Aimed.
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Dub
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:45 am |
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Penda wrote: MM is a bit more reliant on crit for damage, though, considering the additional +crit damage and Piercing Shots. Also, MM and SV benefits differently from the damage stats.
Going over your logs I notice that you do not seem to use Multi-Shot as much as you should, considering the lack of Aimed. Yes Penda, I know and I dont, actually I didnt, coz now changed UI a bit to use it as a sequencing for SV said. Anyway thnx for advice!
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Casfála
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:20 pm |
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What's your shot rotation? Shoulder enchant is sub-optimal.
Also, Del... Deadly Ametrines are primarily useless, especially in that socket. Illu, 1/3 in Hunting Party is enough. If you've experienced otherwise then you must have an extremely low crit rate as SV.
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Dub
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:56 pm |
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Illuria
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:13 pm |
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I see you've changed your gems, well done. Still think you're better off with a pure 20 agi in your gloves though. The socket bonus isn't worth it. Your talents however, haven't overall improved. Yes, you took one out of Expose Weakness, but you also took one out of Resourcefulness, why? Reducing the cd on BA is awesome for a SV hunter. That build? No. The Improved Stings talent is primarily useful for increasing the damage of Chimeara Shot. It's not intended as an all-round boost to dps. I'll go with Cas on 1/3 in Hunting Party, 2/3 in Expose Weakness, since you seem intent on being a Replenishment provider. That CAN be useful in a 10 man, but in a 25, there are usually other replenishment providers whose replenishment-providing talents give them more of a bonus. Your pets, both wolf and cat, still seem a little oddly talented. I'll give you a little more time to correct them before giving my final verdict. EDIT: Also, Cas, Shesta only just got exalted with SoH. It's not an absolutely raiding necessity, but it helps =)
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Dub
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:44 pm |
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+20 agil on gloves set Cat talents rebuilt - special thnx to Failcat  Wolf is leveling to lvl 80 so then will all be set properly. Talents slightly rebuilt to 3/3 Resourcefulness, point taken from Hunting party.
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Casfála
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Post subject: Re: Application : Dub - SV Hunter Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:39 pm |
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You haven't completely convinced us so I would like to ask you to write a post where you explain your choice of: Your explanation should not just be "it's the cookie-cutter [insert word]", but also your own reasoning.
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